Bob is a Type A person, whether it is work or travel

On today’s episode, I spoke with Bob Bonifas.  I have seen Bob’s name on the top of the Most Traveled People’s list.  MTP divides the world into 874 places and Bob is currently ranked #2 on the list.  I had the opportunity to visit Bob in his office in Aurora, a suburb of Chicago.  His spacious office was filled with a ton of travel mementos.

Bob did not take his first flight until the age of 30, but since then he has racked up several million plus miles and then some.  Bob founded Alarm Detection Systems and became involved with the industry associations.  With his involvement in the association he began to travel more and more, expanding his horizons.

Bob learned about Travelers’ Century Club and MTP and being a Type A personality he quickly became hooked on travel.  He rapidly picked up new countries and territories, moving up on the list. He is now in a friendly competition with his IL neighbor, Don Parrish, who is ranked #1.

Bob touches on the great difficulty of finishing of the MTP list as you near the end.  Many of his final territories are remote or require permission to visit.  These trips tend to be expensive.  And very frustratingly, the visit is not guaranteed.  Many of these territory visits are accomplished by ship, and sometimes the oceans are so rough, it is not possible to land.

I encourage you to subscribe wherever you listen, Apple Podcast, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify and of course if you like the program, feel free write a review like Swissdogg from the US did.  “As an avid traveler myself…Rick and his guests are an inspiration. So far I have been to 63 countries…looks like I have some work ahead of me!”  Swissdogg good luck on your next 63 countries and thanks for the compliments, I can feel my head getting bigger.  I also want to say a quick hello to our fans around the world … from Paraguay to Afghanistan, from Angola to Haiti and over 100 different countries.

But for now, here’s my conversation with Bob. We are both in the Aurora, IL known as the Land of Lincoln.  Please listen in and enjoy.

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More about Robert A. (Bob) Bonifas:

  • Born in: Aurora, IL
  • Passports from: US
  • Must carry: Satellite phone and a Garmin InReach
  • Favorite drink: Diet Cherry Coke
  • Favorite Airline: UAL
  • Favorite Hotel: I have no preference among the top hotels.
  • Most Traveled People: List of places

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About Counting Countries

Counting Countries is the only podcast to bring you the stories from the dedicated few who’ve spent their lives on the singular quest of traveling to every country in the world. Less people have traveled to every country in the world than have been to outer space.

Theme music for this podcast is Demeter’s Dance, written, performed, and provided by Mundi.

About GlobalGaz

Ric Gazarian is the host of Counting Countries. He is the author of three books: Hit The Road: India, 7000 KM To Go, and Photos From Chernobyl.  He is the producer of two travel documentaries: Hit The Road: India and Hit The Road: Cambodia.

Ric is also on his own quest to visit every country in the world. You can see where he has traveled so far and keep up with his journey at

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