Charles has traveled to every country in the world and is the founder of MTP


I had known of Charles for many years, both his accomplishments and the Most Traveled People.  I had the opportunity to meet Charles in person at the Extreme Travel International Congress at the Principality of Sealand.  He was one of the 25 travelers at the congress and I was able to sit next to him at one meal and listen in on his travel stories.

I am reminding you that Counting Countries is now partnered with Patreon.  Patreon is a platform that allows patrons, that’s you, to support creators, and that is me creating Counting Countries.  And thanks to my other patrons, Ted Nims, Bisa Myles, Ryan Gazder, and Adam Hickman.  As thanks, they are able to listen to additional interviews like the extra interview I did with Per Besson and Petro Marias, only available to them.

Before I speak with Charles, I want to introduce Counting Countries’s new partner, Untamed Borders.  Untamed Borders is well known in our community for their expertise in countries like Afghanistan, Somalia, Pakistan, and others.  And during our episode today, I will have a brief conversation with James Wilcox.

Also, please remember, I am organizing a trip to Madagascar in August of 2020 with G Adventures.  You can support Counting Countries by booking a trip through my link  So feel free to reach out to me with any questions.  Take a look at their trips to Galapagos and Antarctica.

There are travelers and then there are travelers.  Charles has made an incredible commitment to travel;  in time, treasure, and in personal sacrifice.  I think this commitment is neatly explained with his expedition to Bouvet Island.  Listen to our conversation and ask yourself would you follow in his footsteps?  Charles will explain where Bouvet Island is and his journey to travel there.

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But for now, here’s my conversation with Charles who was in northern California while I was in Chicago.  Please listen in and enjoy.

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About Counting Countries

Counting Countries is the only podcast to bring you the stories from the dedicated few who’ve spent their lives on the singular quest of traveling to every country in the world. Less people have traveled to every country in the world than have been to outer space.

Theme music for this podcast is Demeter’s Dance, written, performed, and provided by Mundi.

About GlobalGaz

Ric Gazarian is the host of Counting Countries. He is the author of three books: Hit The Road: India, 7000 KM To Go, and Photos From Chernobyl.  He is the producer of two travel documentaries: Hit The Road: India and Hit The Road: Cambodia.

Ric is also on his own quest to visit every country in the world. You can see where he has traveled so far and keep up with his journey at

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The Curious Case of William Baekeland William is a former guest of Counting Countries.  Harry Mitsidis, the author and extreme traveler, traces William’s arrival and unraveling in the travel community.  It is a story worthy of a film … and this book.  

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