Michael has visited every country in the world and is ranked #10 on Nomad Mania

On today’s episode, I welcome back Michael Runkel back to Counting Countries.  Michael first appeared on Episode 17, back in the fall of 2016. At that time he had completed 176 countries.

I am in a difficult position.  There are only 26 podcasts a year, and there are so many incredible individuals in the 193 community.   I have an ongoing personal debate whether to only feature new people on the podcast or revisit with prior guests.  I decided in some cases, it would be interesting to touch base with previous guests who were in the midst of their quest, and who at a later point completed the 193.  Hence, Michael rejoins Counting Countries again. And he does not disappoint. Michael is a prolific traveler and shares more incredible travel stories including one from Central African Republic.  He introduces us to Kolja Spori’s Extreme Traveler International Congress, which took place in Somalia, where William Baekeland made an appearance. Michael also touches on his extremely successful photo exhibit (which has ended at the time of the publication of this podcast) in Germany featuring photos from all 193 countries

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But for now, here’s my conversation with Michael, who joined me from Germany while I was in Bangkok, the Big Mango.

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About Counting Countries

Counting Countries is the only podcast to bring you the stories from the dedicated few who’ve spent their lives on the singular quest of traveling to every country in the world. Less people have traveled to every country in the world than have been to outer space.

Theme music for this podcast is Demeter’s Dance, written, performed, and provided by Mundi.

About GlobalGaz

Ric Gazarian is the host of Counting Countries. He is the author of three books: Hit The Road: India, 7000 KM To Go, and Photos From Chernobyl.  He is the producer of two travel documentaries: Hit The Road: India and Hit The Road: Cambodia.

Ric is also on his own quest to visit every country in the world. You can see where he has traveled so far and keep up with his journey at GlobalGaz.com

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